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Feb 8, 2023·edited Feb 8, 2023Pinned

February 8 - So, I just woke up and discovered that some spammer/hacker/bot got into my Substack, and Charles Eisenstein's, overnight, impersonating us and spamming various posts with hundreds of phishing-type replies. It looks like Charles or someone reported it and Substack cleaned it up. In any event, please stay on your toes, and never respond to anything sketchy-looking like that. I have been getting an inordinate amount of malware/phishing/hacker attacks since I published my columns on Desmet and Musk. I imagine there will be more to come.

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Yes I just saw one of those. Didn't think you had "something essential to share with me" if I just contact the text message number attached!

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Never change, CJ.

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Back at you, Clifton!

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Clifton! How did I not know you are at Substack?!

I have been wanting to reach out to you for a while as I would love to interview you for my “Dissident Dialogues” series, which CJ was gracious enough to inaugurate and where you made a few appearances:

• “Dissident Dialogues: CJ Hopkins” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/dissident-dialogues-cj-hopkins)

If you’re game for an interview, you can sign up for my mailing list and reply to the Welcome email (I’d be honored to gift you a comp if you do). Alternatively, CJ can hook you up with my email (if he doesn’t mind playing intermediary :-)

Thank you for your courageous work on behalf of truth, liberty, and humanity 🙌

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I know! I’m a little gobsmacked, just love him🤭

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...except for your socks ! ;)

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I think Greenwald comes across as he does (your shot at him is fair, I'm just playing explainer/devil's advocate) because- like a few other people like Vinay Prasad and sometimes Berenson- he's a devout Democrat apologist that can't completely condemn his "side," which leads to framing things with both-sidesism and cherry-picking of context. Or it may just be that he/they are afraid of scaring off employers/money by going all-in on anything.

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I have a ton of respect for Glenn Greenwald, actually, but no one is off-limits to criticism ... and Glenn has been relentlessly brutal to the Democrats and liberals recently, and deservedly so.

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I have respect for Glenn but he will not call BS on some topics. I am not at all surprised he doesn't frame covid in the proper context - could be blindness or it could be that he expects he needs his bread buttered in the future and won't cross certain lines for fear of no employment.

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This is exactly what I meant.

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Absolutely. No one is off-limits to criticism. And the people that are your ostensible allies should be willing to hold themselves to a high standard of scrutiny.

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A lot of harm is being done lately by assuming things without proof. Someone not being worth listening to or worthy of greater skepticism isn't automatically a chaos actor.

"There are no innocents in the TV press. Every single one of them is a controlled government agent (CIA)." I'm not sure if this is intended as hyperbole, but if it's a serious statement, it's honestly crazy. Literally every single one of them? My neighbor who reports about overturned chicken trailers for the local affiliate? The weather girl? All on the CIA payroll? And this has never leaked out, ever, ever, ever?

A tremendous amount of effective division is being achieved with this narrative of "controlled opposition." I'll wait for explicit proof before I make a final decision about who or what someone is, and I'll recognize that not everyone who is on my side in this struggle is going to look or sound like me.

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This makes certain assumptions about the nature of the universe that I'm not prepared to use as a basis for my reasoning, but in that context, I can understand your position.

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You can make assumptions on Press journalists based on their employers. Let's say you own CNN. Along I come for a job : I am woke , I am vaccinated to the hilt, and I know that the Russians are evil, and that Fauci was just doing his job >> You're going to hire me ?? No you're not. You are going to subject me to a cognitive analysis test, to see that I can be relied on to be a parrot, and a committed stupid, arrogant parrot .

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Agreed, but .. I have only come across Greenwald via Hopkins >> The Greenwald take on the installation of the Nazi Ukraine Government and proxy war and the history is very good.

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I don't know if I'm ready to jump to calling Greenwald (or anyone for that matter) controlled opposition without specific evidence.

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Lots of things come out eventually, and some presumptions are more harmful than baseline skepticism.

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So do you have any "direct evidence of covert action" from Greenwald then, beyond that he was chosen for the Snowden reveal?

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Which I did not do.

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Dec 28, 2022·edited Dec 28, 2022Liked by CJ Hopkins

CJ, you'll have to work a little harder to alienate me. Disparagement of the sainthood of Elon Musk won't do it. You'll have to ... oh, I don't know, say bad things about my late mother, maybe. Something like that.

Meanwhile, I suppose I should open a Twitter account. Who knows how much life enrichment I'm missing by not checking my phone every couple of minutes to see how many new Fleeps have come in?

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Damn ... sounds like we're stuck with each other.

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My Twitter account is still bricked-in behind the tack room at the stables. There it shall rot.

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I love that I can always count on you to serve up generous helpings of unminced words, CJ. You are a master chef of bitter pills (red and black with the occasional white delicacy), which are far more nutritious than sugar placebos.

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Dec 28, 2022Liked by CJ Hopkins

Wow,

Your 257-tweet thread of headlines from the mainstream media that you compiled is a jaw dropping bullseye. You're officially a wise man in my black book. Thank you.

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Don't tell anyone, but this entire newsletter was basically just an elaborate means of trying to get people to read and reflect on that thread.

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Wait...what? Covid wasn't just a big mismanaged misunderstanding?

And Elon isn't a knight in shining armor, riding a little blue savior bird?

WTF.

Next you're probably going to tell me that the government doesn't have my best interests at heart.

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The World Health Organisation has been corrupted by allowing it's main benefactor, Bill Gates, to pull the strings = redefine Policies, create artificial 'Pandemics' and Mandate deadly injections (called VACCINES). The WHO is now obsolete and divisive and no longer a benefit top mankind!

The Covid 'man-modified' virus was created to justify trillions in profits and to reduce the world population.

We no longer respect the medical industry, doctors, hospitals, injections ("Vaccines") and most over-priced medicines.

The World Economic Forum is out of control and needs to be terminated! Their lunatic image of how the world should run is designed for the continued benefit of the Elite. For their increased CONTROL of us MINIONS - soon to become SLAVES! The WEF is undesirable and the WHO is Dead! As are those that subscribe to authoritarian mandates to CONTROL Man.

For decades Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and other re-existing anti-viral medicines were all 'Approved' for Human health treatment until Big Pharma realised these SAFE & EFFECTIVE proven medicines had to be made to 'disappear in order continue to remain disgustingly profitable. They had to pretend to 'prove' that "No other anti-viral medicine exists' in order to justify new rushed (DEADLY) 'vaccines' onto the market. This was the only way Big Pharma could obtain a 'Temporary' Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA) LICENCE for their supposed Covid Vaccines that appeared in miraculously quickly after Covid was modified for release. The FDA/CDC/NIH had to go along with this scam so that the 'experiment' could commence!

FDA/CDC/NIH knew the aforementioned medicines had been used successfully for decades and that the World Health Organisation recommended Ivermectin was on the WHO most essential medicines for every country in the world. Ivermectin won the Nobel Prize for medicine - but Big Pharma had to dispel this fact by 'rubbishing' any pre-existing anti-viral cures as "ANIMAL MEDICINES".

The conspiracy between FDA/CDC/NIH and Big Pharma is probably the most egregious act of crime against humanity in history, along with those same organisations hiding or/and ignoring the ineffective and dangerous nature of the ill-conceived and hurriedly released injections (incorrectly referred to as "VACCINES".

Liability was a TEMPORARY concession for a similar catastrophic 'vaccine' EDXPERIMENT in 1976 - for Swine Flu. The experiment was abandoned after 50+ US citizens died - POST VAX. The Covid Vax CULL has killed millions world-wide but FDA/CDC/NIH turn a blind eye because of financial arrangements the continue while deadly jabs flow into unsuspecting humans.

IMMUINITY from LIABILITY, was 'TEMPORARY' 46 years ago and must now be regarded as a DELIBERATE CRIMINAL oversight. The jabs kill humans so it continues as an act of MURDER!

Reintroduce LIABILITY and Covid will cease to be a serious health issue and those injured by the last two years of unwarranted deadly injections will force the main offenders like Pfizer, et al, out of business with the levels of compensation they are currently protected from having to pay.

Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed because I joined the dots!

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The WHO was not corrupted, it was built from the foundation for Plandemics. They recruit good people and use them as concealment. The only thing that has changed is you and I are no longer fooled by the concealment.

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How do you know it was corrupted and not created in the first place to serve corruption?

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Extremely well stated!

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I like your work so I'm not deleting you. 😊 I agree on the Twitter thing. I do not trust Musk any further than I could throw him. However, I also think Demet is misunderstood. I've read the book, too. I have worked with cult members as an alternative psychologist who trained in that sort of programing. So I've read many of his resources in my training and could follow his logic.

There is no question that we've been undone by a political psyops with propaganda and programing and indoctrination and whatever over decades of deliberate preparation for "just the right time" which COVID was. Either intentionally (so I think) or accidentally and just used (which I do not think but it's still possible, I suppose.) And I understand that Desmet believes this, too. What I interpreted in his book and his collection of theories from works of others (he admits most of this isn't original to him but taken from other observers of human psychology) is that our psyches have us set up to have these things done to us. You cannot have a psyop in a person who is not already pre-programmed to accept the psyop. Or led down the psyop path to its final conclusion. That is, after all, what a psychological operation is. I was programed at one time, myself. But I went through a cult de-programming with my psychologist at the time (decades ago) who thought it would be helpful to detangle and unravel the indoctrination caused by the catholic church and my father and probably teachers as well since I went to a private, catholic church. I needed help to untweeze what my father did from the insanity of all the forgiveness and the father is the authority God wants me to give in to and all the other nonsense that was impairing my recovery process. That did the trick. And I don't entirely trust any authority anymore no matter how much I might initially like them or even agree with what they might be saying. After a bit my spidey senses and red flags often (not always and I pay attention to that as well) start to pop up and when they do I pull back and start to research the person or what they are saying. It doesn't take long for all of that to happen at my age. I've been an alternative psychologist and natural healer for a very long time and have see a lot of nonsense over the years. Including the ground work for what Desmet is trying to say. Which most of y'all won't get because in many ways, you are still programmed. At least not able to hear those observations which is all that they are, by the way. There is an inherent blindness to the psyche to discount anything that might undo it's basic set of beliefs. And an anger that occurs when one finally finds out one is indoctrinated. You have to work through that initial stage and it's messy. Then you have to take responsibility for what you might have done while indoctrinated and that is where the psyche gets really pissed. Because "what do I have to be responsible for when someone else programed me to do whatever I did (such as give in to the evil father for instance and not fight back because one is programed to not say "no" to one's father.) It's very complicated and very messy and engenders quite a lot of hostility as one plows into the untweezing and unraveling of the messy ball of yarn and neuropathways and such. My second suicide attempt occurred during this time and as I've worked with others, suicide is always a danger in that process. If you aren't working with someone while being deprogrammed, the psyche will see that that information is dangerous to itself and find ways to denounce and attack such ideas. Which folks are doing all over the place. And maybe it's a good thing, overall. Most folks are not ready to hear these ideas but those ideas will reach some folks. Some will be undone. Some will understand what he's getting at and it will help them move forward. The rest will ignore it all.

I don't think it was a good time to bring those theories forward, overall. Helping to deprogram people seems to me to be the better course. I'm not sure how that can be achieved at the massive levels we need that to occur, however. We don't have enough therapists who know what they are doing for one thing. The raw data and manipulated and graphed and otherwise presented data as proof isn't working. For programed people it rarely does as he also points out and as I saw first-hand working with cult members. "Proofs" and data just don't undo the indoctrination.Which is why y'all are running into so many mental brick walls. If and when that does start to unravel, the psyche is lost in space for awhile as it finds new threads and truths to pull into itself and create a new world perception and order from. It's tricky. And most go back to the old programs in the end. Some do that in new cults that are a bit more benign. Some try to attach to the therapist who must unattached them. Most give up and go back. And that is what the majority of folks are facing right now. They do hear your data and proofs. But in order to accept those as truth they must also accept that their docs are liars and their governments are monsters, which means their parents and teachers were wrong, and that science can't be trusted anymore, including those proofs and truths and that this has been going on for a long time. It's why Desmet says the bad guys may, indeed, win, because getting folks to let go of what they "know to be true, now" just isn't going to be easy. And by the time they do, the bad guys will own them and then the real horrors in those minds will begin as they realize someone, back when, was correct and why didn't they listen and help to fight it. So remorse, anger, self-anger and the whole business will set in and what is left of humanity will just go insane for a bit. There seem to be a small group of folks, in the overall population not inclined to be so programmed either completely or at all. There are psyches that naturally do not accept any authority on anything. Others who are natural rebels. And so on. Humans present not as a homogenous sort of thing but as a messy bell curve-like thing with all sorts of anomalies - anything you can think of, almost. So, be kind. Be very grateful that you can see more truth than most. Keep learning as much as you can and don't ever, ever think you have it all tied up in a pretty red bow because some other bit of data will come along, eventually, and untie that bow. And if you can handle that, be grateful for that as well. And patient and nonjudgmental for those who can't. You, and others like you, are an anomaly in the overall human condition which means that there will be many of us lurking in the underground working to undo what most will accept. Star Wars may have been more future-seeing than we all knew at the time. Have a peaceful rest of your holiday and thank you for all of your hard work.

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I figured out I was in a cult and deprogrammed myself. Because the cult was psychiatry, I could not find a psychologist to admit psychiatry is trauma programming. How can I reach you to discuss this, if possible. By the way my research into psychiatry and how to detoxify led me into learn vaccines are full of toxic ingredients. It took a few years for me to connect the dots and realize allopathic medicine is a cult. Like all cults, they offer some useful products

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I am on Telegram @ForestDi56. Conventional psychiatry, psychology, medicine in general is a mess for sure. That is why I went to alternative forms of all of those things and found multiple paths to offer my patients toward healing. It's different for everyone which is one of the major stumbling blocks in conventional medicine - it's a pigeon-hole approach that one must be stuffed into whether it works for you or not. And if not, it's because there is something wrong with you and the doc dismisses you. I always found each person to be a new challenge and finding the doors to open that would help each person was interesting. Even, sometimes, fun. But sometimes, none of my doors worked and then my job was helping them to find someone else who had a different repertoire that could help.

ANYTHING can become a cult. And I do mean anything. It seems the way humans are built which is curious in of itself. Read the various substack authors' followers. Many show signs of cult-like responses and one can imagine the sparkle in the eyes as they view the author in almost a god-like way (little "g" on purpose in this context as I don't think they see the author supplanting their God.) But we get hung up on any of a number of things that resemble cultishness. Football teams. Political parties. Whiskey brands. Beer brands. Whether to bake from a mix or not. BBQ brands and methods. It goes on and on. I was raised catholic and one of the routines of the practice I still hang on to. That of the practice of self-examination one is supposed to indulge in prior to attending confession. As a child I generally did what I was told and diligently practiced this even though my elders didn't believe me when I said I did. I still do. Particularly when someone disagrees with me. Or, when my internal senses won't leave me alone over an incident or something I said. It's usually a trigger to tell me I probably screwed up somewhere or need to learn a new thing. It's both what got in my way in my recovery period (I felt I deserved what happened as punishment for something until I learned otherwise) as well as helping me recover because I let the psychologist's words in and rumble around. Even when I began to learn to question everything, I let it in initially just to see what it tastes and feels like. These habits have been reinforced with a brand of meditation that I've also found helpful.

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Jan 11, 2023·edited Jan 11, 2023

Aw, yes…psychiatry cult. My husband and I have learned through our son being admitted to behavioral unit for psychosis and put on psychiatric(EVIL of ALL, highly addictive to the brain)meds. From searching alternatives, found Robert Whitaker books-Anatomy of an Epidemic & Mad in America. Then found Dr. Peter Breggin’s book-(the horrific and painful) Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, A guide…

And now Peter Goetsche book about psych drug withdrawal(I forget the title).

It’s been 7 1/2 years slowly gaining more & more knowledge and still trying to help our son understand how to safely & patiently get of the evil meds he so does not want to be on.

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Interesting. I was interested in psychology for a while when I first was in college, but came to the conclusion that the pscyhologists themselves were all a little nuts and that I didn't want to belong to that "cult."

You might be interested in Part 2 of my book, although you need to stick with Part 1 to get the full benefit. It's a different approach to explaining things, but I think it has universal application, otherwise I would not have written it.

https://www.amazon.com/Dance-Devil-Love-Age-Covid/dp/1639881670/r

Also see my substack. This article in particular: https://maggierusso.substack.com/p/dance-with-the-devil

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Thanks. I will take a look.

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I love your heartfelt comment. My favorite is "...They do hear your data and proofs. But in order to accept those as truth they must also accept that their docs are liars and their governments are monsters, which means their parents and teachers were wrong, and that science can't be trusted anymore, including those proofs and truths and that this has been going on for a long time. " That is how I feel, and continue to feel. Once you find out that one thing is not true, it leads you to unraveling more and more lies that you grew up believing. All of our habits have to be examined. Habits are what we do as a routine, without thinking. We are constantly being targeted for programming every day all day. Just turn on the television. The Covid Psyop is a continuation of the mass programming that has been going on for a very long time.

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You get it! Blessed are you as well as cursed (that would include me, too) with that awareness. It's tough to work through and continue to work through and hang on to what sanity might be left at the end of the day as you do that. ❤️

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No. My training happened a long time ago. I’m retired - or thought I was before all this got started. You can search out deprograming from cults and see what is available these days. I’m not sure I even kept my books since I’ve moved twice after retiring. I never thought any of that would be needed in my current life.

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I'm with you C.J. Please note, if you haven't already, that Glenn Greenwald's young healthy husband became suddenly catastrophically ill several months ago, from unknown causes. This fact did not wake Glenn up, so he either can't or won't.

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Dec 28, 2022·edited Dec 28, 2022

He's somewhat like Abby Martin -- does some good work, but just can't allow himself to cross any real or perceived ideological boundary that would have anyone see him as being on the "wrong" team.

In a way, they are enablers.

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Caitlin Johnstone is another. As excellent as she is on empire/war, most of her cultural takes are garbage and I think she still on some level believes government can be fixed with more or "better" government. 🥴

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Yes, I agree.

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I subscribe to both of Abby's Patreon podcasts even though they fail where most of the Left fails. Which is in understanding the many-tentacled psychological/financial/social operation which is the COVID scam, the poison injections, etc.

The one show they produced featured a conventional Doc advocating masking, etc. They would have been better off avoiding the topic.

I am not sure how conscious this ignorant avoidance is on their part.

That said, they have done very valuable work on exposing the pasts of De Santis and Tulsi Gabbard among others.

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Dec 28, 2022·edited Dec 28, 2022

I guess. IMO, anyone that could not understand how absurd it was to put a piece of cloth or a mask on their faces to stop a microscopic virus is no longer a person I care to engage with in any way shape or form. And the masks are only the surface of the elaborate hoax known as Covid-19.

Many Abby Martin types would have been shrugging their shoulders as the rest of us were loaded onto cattle cars. And no one who claims to be dedicated to truth could still be pushing the party line at this point in time.

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I do not understand this. Please help. I am barely computer literate.

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Dec 28, 2022Liked by CJ Hopkins

Your principled, honest hard line is the whole reason I have a paid subscription with you, CJ. If you change you are no longer worth reading, imo. Please keep it up!

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Thanks, I'll try, but please let me know if I start slipping.

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Don’t worry. i’m not shy.

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Dec 28, 2022·edited Dec 28, 2022

You're awesome CJ. Have you been following Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai since the Musk Twitter take over? He's been calling out Musk as the shill that he is for all sorts of obvious reasons, but with an emphasis on how Dr. Shiva was the first to actually expose the secret portal that the government has into Twitter from a federal court case from over two years ago when he was crnsored from twitter while running for office in Massachusetts. If Musk was truly about free speech, this portal should have been exposed and shutdown as one of his first action items. Instead, we get complete silence. The official court documents can be found here:

https://vashiva.com/first-amendment-twitter-galvin-lawsuit/

https://truthfreedomhealth.com/

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I can't find anything there except cultish marketing for his "Truth Freedom Health® System". I couldn't fault anybody for mistaking it for parody, although I've been keeping an eye on Dr Shiva for a year or two now and know he's completely serious. That's just how he makes his money now.

Maybe you meant to link to

https://vashiva.com/elon-musk-equals-censorship-surveillance-a-false-god-leading-you-to-slavery-how-we-win-back-freedom/

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You're right. I provided the wrong link. This is the one to the federal lawsuit: https://vashiva.com/first-amendment-twitter-galvin-lawsuit/

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I fully agree with you, there was no debate and they trully rolled out the global cop surveillance system. They used army, police and forced everyone to stay at home. It's visible from the headlines and I fully agree.

Anyway, where are we now? They (atleast here in Europe) didn't succeed with permanently made the changes. Pandemic law has expired and the covid pass will be abolished soon as well as mandatory vaccinations. So yes, they used every arsenal they had. Still, the other platforms pop-up and now most of mainstream sources are not trusthworthy anymore.

So what you predict now? I will as a citizen for sure still push for courts and legal actions against those who allowed that. Also with support for alternative media via donations, try to organize similar networks of people refusing to follow this process and push with political power to change this people and media. It's long term process but mostly I think the people understand what happened, even when they refuse to admit it to them self's.

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Here in Germany (or most of it), masks are still mandatory on public transport, doctor's practices, and other places, there are still "vaccination" mandates, etc. "Vaccine" injuries and deaths are still being denied by the authorities, media, et al. Censorship and demonization of dissent continues.

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To give up freedom for security is the devil's bargain.Security is the sweet sister of death ,it wraps its arms around us,and lulls us into sleepy narcotic waves of apathy. When do the Germans wake up and become a sovereign independent nation.

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I think someone tried to do that before... didn't go too well as far I recall.

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Reporting from deepest, darkest soon to be commie/fascist (again) Spain here... the masks are firmly in place still on all public transport and "medical" environments (including pharmacies which technically are just shops). What grinds my gut is seeing the kids on school busses all wearing muzzles to this day. It makes me wonder what's going on in the schools. And then there's the relentless faithfull that I see stumbling around the local towns with muzzles drawn tight while everyone else is muzzle-free. I'm wondering what the rates will be when they drop the next stage of this ongoing psyop.

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That's true, one of my friend went to Berlin and masks are still mandatory in subway and trains, similar is Dresden and Vienna. Here as we are neighbor country it was scraped since March 2022. Sometimes it's funny, that you can tell who is traveling from Vienna or Germany because they are only one with mask in train.

I didn't followed the German situation so closely recently, but we mostly follow some path sooner or later. Good situation is with air travel. At airports there are no covid passes and no masks mandatory. If I can say is that for Amsterdam, Prague, Italy and Turkey.

Regarding the vaccines and censorship. At YouTube is now allowed to mention excess mortality, covid and origin of virus from lab. Before they deleted any video mention this information but now its allowed to stay and reach many viewers. I was personally surprised, that video with Dr. Soňa Peková got about 236.000 views in 6 days which is impressive for our region. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=r5wHrqwHllU) There are also other stories, many people are speaking up on many channels specially mentioned just for this information about censorship and manipulation - https://youtu.be/WUAP3CkT0Mc

Intersting is also official sources, which published the excess mortality which is currently highest ever been in Europe. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220916-1

I have to look how it's with Germany but I am sure, they also getting this information out. When you speak with Germans, the attitude and mental blocade is shifting. Somewhere is probably delayed or in different stage but the direction is similar in whole Europe.

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"If you want to believe that Elon Musk is rescuing Twitter (and perhaps the world) from corporate censorship, or Wokeness, or whatever, or that the new pathologized global-capitalist totalitarianism was caused by “mass hypnosis,” or whatever, or that the last three years have been a “debate” about a virus, or a series of unfortunate “mistakes,” or an “overreaction” to a “crisis,” rather than a globally-coordinated PSYOP … go for it. Believe whatever you need to. But don’t expect me to make it easy for you."

I'm with you, CJ, as far as the last 3 years being the culmination of a grand PSYOP (not THE culmination, as there are countless ongoing PSYOPS). But I do think the "mass formation" of much of humanity is real. Isn't that what the crafters of a PSYOP count on, to be successful?

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You dont need mass formation or a new theory to explain the mis-behavior of other humans. There has always been a madness of crowd behavior, and attempts to manipulate such behavior. But the crowd is still made up of individuals who are capable of making their own decisions, if they want to.

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And about 30% who decide to do silly things like wear masks, and/or exhibit deranged behavior i.e. banishing family members for not getting jabbed.

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They were always teetering on the edge of batshit... they just needed a good excuse to unleash the crazy within.

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Thank you for channelling my inner rage.

Continue.

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I've been suspicious of Glenn Greenwald for a very long time. In addition, his writings are simply too long and deal with issues that from my point of view were settled long ago. If I read his writings, they simply divert me from more important and recent revelations. He stuck with the Intercept long after they proved themselves to be a limited hangout, and only resigned when their censorship started to affect his own work. His more recent writings have done little to relieve my suspicions. That said, perhaps you're misinterpreting "questions about Covid devoid of politics." I think he was referring not to questions that actually were devoid of politics, but questions that should have been devoid of politics. Clearly, Dave Smith pointed out that those questions should have been devoid of politics. It's much more likely that GG used an ambiguous phrase than that he completely misinterpreted the video he re-tweeted. Still, what I said still goes and I shut down emails from System Update just prior to seeing this post from CJ.

Regarding Desmet, I believe he and other observers of totalitarianism are correct about "mass formation," though I don't believe in "free floating anxiety." The mass formation is a result of the simple manipulation of fear, similar to starting a stampede by firing guns in the air. Later, shame is used to to keep people within the mass. Sticking with the herd has dangers of its own, but nowhere near the danger of being a solitary cow vulnerable to top of the foodchain predators. Thus, "free floating anxiety" is an overly complicated theory to replace the manipulation of fear and shame, but in no way does Desmet shift blame to or from those who succumb to the "mass formation."

Of course, none of my agreements or disagreements with CJ about details have any bearing on his ultimate conclusions that debate was never allowed, that "mistakes were made" (or not) or that there has been no "overreaction." I am in total agreement that this was a giant psyop, and I don't think Desmet would disagree with any of that, even if his concept of "free floating anxiety" is totally unnecessary to explain what has occurred.

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