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ok, dear Denise Ward. Specially for you! Here we go. "fuck you bitch [add a bunch of obscenities blah blah blah] " Phew Denise, I just had the best free speech event of my life! Thank you for it. No, as we discussed you can't censor any of this, you have to endorse it right here and acknowledge every word was absolutely correctly right!!!

In conclusion, Demise, I will run my substack exactly as it pleases me and ban every troll that is a rude and disrespectful idiot off my page, since it is my work product and my interaction with my readers. you can run your substack absolutey the way you prefer, and I do not interfere with your decisions.

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Thanks to Demise The Troll, this is the first time I wish that Substack comments had a downvote button.

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I don't think you're the real Sasha. Wow, such a response sure shows your level. No I won't censor it though, why? Like I said it's just words on a screen and we don't really know who you are. I doubt your who you purport to be because I don't think she would answer like a drunken sailor. I don't have to endorse it but I certainly have no intention of censoring it that would be preposterous. I'd rather everyone can see you for what you speak.

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I am 100% real Sasha, Denise. I hope this was a lesson to you. Do you need another lesson? Or are we done moaning about "free speech"?

PS. Denise Ward acknowledged she is a moron, and she endorses this since it is free speech. She will never censor this ever. Free speech Denise, remember! You love it, right? You love being called retarded, no?

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No we're not done. The lesson is for you to learn. Just because you responded like a drunken sailor still didn't cause me to censor you. You thought I would because it would justify your own transgression. You are the one who has missed the point. And if you don't get that free speech is of the utmost importance for humanity especially now when technocrats are salivating to shut us up, then it seriously shows your intelligence is not quite up to snuff.

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ok, cool! I win. You acknowledge you are a retard. Awesome. Free speech is amazing. Especially when I can exercise it at morons who believe that they must take abuse because they must uphold my right to abuse them, when they in fact have no such obligation, since they are NOT government. But just low IQ hypocrites like Denise Ward! This is so amazing, I can't even begin to describe it!

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I don't call writing to be abuse. You're associating real life with online life. Online it must be always free as it's words on a screen. I can ignore you too but you can say anything you like about me. It's your opinion and opinions are a dime a dozen. Substantiated opinions are what matters to me. Calling someone who disagrees with you a moron and all the diatribe you did above, just shows you do not know how to argue. And I think the guy was right about you. If it is really you, it goes to show that an education doesn't necessarily mean intelligence.

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I am so happy you do not equate real life with online but nonetheless you are stupid, Denise. You do not have to take any abuse in life, not IRL, nor online because you are NOT GOVENRMENT. OK? Neither do I. I know how to argue, and you don't. You only know how to bend backwards for your abusers, and I pity you.

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So you say that Denise doesn't need to take any abuse and then you abuse her multiple times in about 60 words?

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Yes, precisely! Denise still has not learned the lesson I am demonstrating here. She still thinks I am exercising free speech (which I am not, I am just abusing her), and therefore she is obligated to "uphold it here".

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The line between free speech and abuse is a very subjective one. Open to abuse.

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You can see the state humans are in - and this is why. You just demonstrated it. We cannot talk except if it's in accolades or certain language that dazzles our egos. How you responded is a full demonstration of what I talk about. I don't feel abused because it's just words on a screen. In "real life" if you did that, which also happens a lot if someone speaks their truth and it "hurts someone's ego", it can be quite dangerous. I'm a woman and women are constantly made to shut up, so I see the internet as a place that we can safely say what we want. But it's women who are throwing that away with claims of abuse or "cyber bullying" which I am constantly trying to explain that life is different online than it is in "real life". I think you showed yourself to be quite discombobulated in your thinking, chaotic and without reason. That's what happens when one speaks from "the wound" meaning the ego. Striking out like a wounded animal rather than a cogent, intelligent, top of the food chain, human. I get what you were trying to do, it doesn't escape me, but that you acted like a troll yourself in order to prove your point which got unproven as I didn't censor you at all, which is what you tried to provoke to justify your own actions, and when your little test didn't work out, you claim it did. Talk about discombobulated!

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I am quite logical Denise, and I don't play a woman card when I lose an argument also. I explained and demonstrated my points very clearly. This concludes my demonstration, and I reiterate that trolls, and entitled assholes will be banned from my page. If someone hates content of my writing I absolutely uphold their right to start their own newsletter in free access on Substack or elsewhere and do it there, instead of seeking notoriety and writing bullshit on my page. The internet is vast and has space for everyone. My work product is mine, and I edit my newsletter the way I see fit.

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Of course you can do anything as I believe in freedom. But that doesn't mean can't call you out. So what you're saying is to have knowledge is good but you will curate that knowledge and you will decide what is acceptable for "your" page. On "your" page you will dictate all. Yes for sure that is your right, but I tell you one thing, I am probably many others who want true freedom of speech, won't be bothering to listen to you anymore. Your knowledge may be great but your wisdom pretty much sucks.

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I am delighted Denise, absolutely delighted that after several hours of this exchange you finally GOT IT! You got what I have been patiently explaining to you - if you don't like reading someone, DON'T read it. Read something else.

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Wow Sasha. Extraordinaire. 🙌

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While I tend to side with denise ward in this little dispute here, I wonder if denise ward would allow every expression if she were in charge of a space (a blog, a chat room, a substack, a forum, etc.). What if someone were repeatedly issuing death threats? What if they were doxxing others in the space? What if they were spamming obscenities and nothing else? I.e., there usually are limits, though one tries to minimize deploying them as much as humanly possible. I don't know why Sasha banned those people, but the danger comes in where a person does not adequately discern the difference between a minimum measure for maintaining order in a space, and censoring over ideas we don't like.

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