If "anti-Zionists" weren't harassing and attacking random Jews on the street and on college campuses, your argument would be more persuasive. In modern parlance, "Zionist" is 100% a synonym for "Jew." As for lobbying ... Israel barely cracks the top 10 in terms of money spent to curry favor with US lawmakers. China spends over twice as m…
If "anti-Zionists" weren't harassing and attacking random Jews on the street and on college campuses, your argument would be more persuasive. In modern parlance, "Zionist" is 100% a synonym for "Jew." As for lobbying ... Israel barely cracks the top 10 in terms of money spent to curry favor with US lawmakers. China spends over twice as much money lobbying the US government, and Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates all outspend Israel. From Israel's point of view, it would be suicidal to allow their enemies to lobby while they did nothing.
Alex Fox: "harassing and attacking random Jews on the street and on college campuses" - oh, you mean using words to tell people that they have got the world wrong is now "harassing and attacking"?
If words are violence, what do you then call the actual killing of tens of thousands of Palestinians?
I am afraid you are fighting for a lost cause. The world has turned it's back to Israel, and rightly so.
No - Zionism does NOT equal Judaism. Many proud Jewish people, secular and religious (including many in the Rabbinical community) are staunchly anti-Zionist.
Look into Rabbi Dovid Feldman, or Miko Peled, or Max Blumenthal.
It goes back to the Scofield (sp?) Bible which misinformed the Evangelical movement in the US, and the massive evangelical Zionist, churches in the US with their dubious funding.
If there is an argument I was making, it revolves around the false equivalence that I repeatedly addressed. But then what is your counter-argument? "No, Zionism equates to Judaism because of 'modern parlance'?
I reject the assertion that Zionism = Judaism. That appears to be the root of many issues, especially in socio-political discourse. If you actually object to this false equivalence, since you see it in "modern parlance", you would reject it too.
Also it isn't about the amount of money spent on lobbying (but those stats are certainly interesting so I appreciate you sharing those). It's about the actual legislative power the lobby holds. Which you'd know about if you had read these articles or any other literature that documents the power of the Israel lobby.
If "anti-Zionists" weren't harassing and attacking random Jews on the street and on college campuses, your argument would be more persuasive. In modern parlance, "Zionist" is 100% a synonym for "Jew." As for lobbying ... Israel barely cracks the top 10 in terms of money spent to curry favor with US lawmakers. China spends over twice as much money lobbying the US government, and Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates all outspend Israel. From Israel's point of view, it would be suicidal to allow their enemies to lobby while they did nothing.
https://www.opensecrets.org/fara
Alex Fox: "harassing and attacking random Jews on the street and on college campuses" - oh, you mean using words to tell people that they have got the world wrong is now "harassing and attacking"?
If words are violence, what do you then call the actual killing of tens of thousands of Palestinians?
I am afraid you are fighting for a lost cause. The world has turned it's back to Israel, and rightly so.
Amen.
No - Zionism does NOT equal Judaism. Many proud Jewish people, secular and religious (including many in the Rabbinical community) are staunchly anti-Zionist.
Look into Rabbi Dovid Feldman, or Miko Peled, or Max Blumenthal.
then why are the VAST MAJORITY of zionists christian??? biden is a zionist. 99% of all democrats and republicans are zionists
It goes back to the Scofield (sp?) Bible which misinformed the Evangelical movement in the US, and the massive evangelical Zionist, churches in the US with their dubious funding.
Thomas Getman
https://youtu.be/ItWWZu2geSE
Historical Roots of Christian Zionism
https://youtu.be/FPGlgz1zC-4?si=89lRvAQEgNEo-Yod
If there is an argument I was making, it revolves around the false equivalence that I repeatedly addressed. But then what is your counter-argument? "No, Zionism equates to Judaism because of 'modern parlance'?
I reject the assertion that Zionism = Judaism. That appears to be the root of many issues, especially in socio-political discourse. If you actually object to this false equivalence, since you see it in "modern parlance", you would reject it too.
Also it isn't about the amount of money spent on lobbying (but those stats are certainly interesting so I appreciate you sharing those). It's about the actual legislative power the lobby holds. Which you'd know about if you had read these articles or any other literature that documents the power of the Israel lobby.
Which Jew, converted Ashkenazi & Sephardic descendants of Ham? Or the genuine Hebraic descended from Shem?