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They could move away from militarily-significant sites, for a start. If Hamas allows them to leave without shooting them, that is.

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I think that's the point of moving the entire 1.1 million people out of North Gaza and squeezing them into the bottom 2/3 (originally in 24 hours) right?

But it's surprising to me that people would shoot at the people who support them, and, conversely, the people at risk of being shot would support people who are liable to shoot them (while not wanting to be shot, of course). Because, Israel told me that Hamas is only stays there because the Gaza population (a healthy majority, I would imagine) supports them. It seems kind of weird. Could you help untangle this for me? Thanks.

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Untangle what - what's so hard about it? Yes, I believe a majority of Palestineans are broadly supportive of Hamas and share the wish to destroy Israel. I also believe that when push comes to shove, the vast majority of people do not wish to be used as human shields in a kill zone. I also believe that Hamas is willing to murder their supporters if their supporters try to escape.

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"I also believe that Hamas is willing to murder their supporters if their supporters try to escape."

Do their supporters know this? Then why do they support them?

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OK, you're being deliberately obtuse. I suspected as much with your previous comment but I decided to take a chance. No more. Bye!

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If you can't explain something to an allegedly stupid person, that tells me you don't know it.

EDIT: Like most people, some parts of me are intelligent and knowledgeable, some parts of me are stupid and ignorant, but you'd rather assume malevolence, and punish me by shunning. And so it goes in most modern politics...

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But it's OK. I know I am unworthy person for being stupid (excuse me, "deliberately obtuse"), and not pulling myself up by my (latent?) intellectual bootstraps. (unmalleable stupidity = malleable ignorance? It's confusing, sorry!)

So, I'll assume for now (during my info gathering as I explained in my initial post) that it's:

(a) Hamas is mighty intelligent and sneaky, and so can fool *all* the dummies who live right next to them, so that the word doesn't get out (seems unlikely, but I suppose it's possible; plus they don't read these websites, it's too over their heads); or,

(b) Hamas basically isn't fooling the rest of the Gazans, so the rest of the Gazans are aware of this danger, some portion want to martyr themselves, but some (most?) others don't, and so will submit to Hamas' "democratic" rule (i.e. the "will of [its] people"); or,

(c) Hamas doesn't *actually* want to kill all the Gazans running away -- you're just fibbin', man!!

Currently, (b) looks to me most plausible (but (c) maybe??) Of course, (b) comes with the problem that Hamas isn't exactly a democratic ruler. (Shhhhh!)

Now, I know these can't be *all* the possibilities, or even correct ones, they're just the ones off my pretty little head, which I was hoping you'd help me straighten out, but...

... I vote. And, in addition, I'll explain my substandard "reasoning" to my stupid pals, who, being stupid herd animals, will do the same. Good job! Thank you!

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Once the American regime gets rid of the dummy voters (well, in fact, it already has, but is still keeping up the pretense until its "Democracy is being killed by the [current scapegoat]!!" is finally pounded into our heads), I won't need your help. I'll have Big Brother.

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