So, I missed the latest hissy fit about “Substack Nazis.” Apparently, a writer named Jonathan M. Katz published an article in The Atlantic — that bastion of literary anti-fascism whose editor-in-chief is a former IDF prison guard who helped bamboozle the American public into launching a war of aggression against Iraq based on a lie about WMDs — demanding that the senior Substack executives answer to him (i.e., Katz) and the Substack Antifa regarding Substack’s “platforming and promotion of Nazis,” which triggered a Nazi-related shitstorm on Substack
Anyway, I suppose the Substack Nazis(R) are forcing people to read their articles at gunpoint? If they aren't, what is Katz mewling about? Nobody is forcing him to publish a Substack or read Substacks, are they?
And I find it rich that Ukraine is chockablock with open and confessed Nazis, armed, funded, trained and supported by the United States and its vassals, but apparently that's okay.
The "funny" part is that Zelensky and his closest associates are of an ethno-religious background which once was the primary target of those self-same fascistic Banderites. Strange bedfellows, I would aver. Appears to be that behind the scenes, certain powerful interests were responsible for their "forced marriage".
Zelenskii was elected in a landslide, over vociferous American objections, on a platform of peace and reconciliation with Russia. The Americans and their Nazi friends did not allow this to happen.
Let's not forget that bastion of democracy to the North, whose Parliament rose in unison to cheer on an aging Ukro-Nazi for fighting against the Soviet Union in WWII. The actual Nazi problem is not with Substack--it's with the U.S. Empire. And while we're at it, let's not forget Operation Paperclip, which brought hundreds of Nazis to America to serve the Empire.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory argues that the Nazi project was relocated to America.
Yes. I’ve also heard of the Nuremberg trials. Allied terror bombing. Expulsion of ethnic Germans from the East. Handing over half of Europe to Stalin. Morgenthau Plan. Abuse and slavery of surrendered German soldiers. Dresden. Need I go on. ??
The main point is not that people should be censored or kicked off the platform. In fact, his article in the Atlantic unequivocally states--and interviews several communication experts to back this point up--that censorship is a bad idea and doesn't solve any problems. (This is a point I also agree with.)
He is posing the question of why Richard Hanania (a noted racist who has written for white supremacist blogs) was featured on the official Substack podcast, allowed to make comments like "we should roll back Civil Rights" with no pushback, allowed to encourage listeners to check out and follow other white supremacist newsletters, and was promoted through the official corporate newsletter for weeks after the fact.
So, no, I wasn't "forced to read him at gunpoint," but I would've never had heard of this guy if it weren't for Substack. There is a difference between hands-off content moderation and active promotion, which is a point that a lot of people seem to be missing for whatever reason.
He didn't bring up 'an interesting point'; he is trying, inarticulately, to start the snowball of mob intolerance rolling, which is all too clearly shown by his complaint about lack of 'pushback'.
"The main point is not that people should be censored or kicked off the platform, but that people I do not agree with should be censored and not allowed to make comments hurting my feelings with no consequences and, horror, encourage people to check out their newsletters instead of mine... After all I live in an echo chamber and have never heard of this guy and therefore think the whole world hasn't been exposed to their callous influence"... Here! made it clear for everyone what you meant...
Is this via algorithm or a conscious decision by YouTube leadership to host these people on the official YouTube account where they are allowed to make denigrate China with no pushback? If it's an algorithmic product, then trying to regulate everything that's said on there would be a ridiculous and futile effort.
If Substack hosted Hanania but had a counterpoint to his arguments in an actual engaging debate, that would be one thing. But he was allowed to go off without any pushback. The point of a political interview should be to push subjects to defend their beliefs, and I would want the same done to left-of-center subjects too as it forces them to defend their arguments and refine their points, while offering the audience an actual exchange of ideas.
The Youtube algorithm seeks to put as many eyeballs on as many videos from different creators/propagandists as possible. That has a greater effect than limiting propaganda to an official channel, that would attract a fraction of the audience, and isn't focused on a single issue. And indeed, algorithms are also a conscious decision by YT leadership. They know what works.
Of course, but to a degree. YouTube can't be expected to micromanage everything that's broadcasted on their platform, nor should they be. That's not the same as the YouTube CEO bringing on a guest to be interviewed at their official channel and asking them to spout off their political beliefs unchecked.
It's more effective for YT to push propaganda onto the recommended videos list. If something is 'recommended', then it is in some way being curated. In my case, I turned off my viewing history. I should be seeing videos related to the one I'm watching, or trending videos, or random videos. That has not turned out to be the case.
And YT can use your argument to deny they are doing anything untoward. My experience demonstrates their algorithms are working as designed.
I missed the brouhaha, too, and just had a vague sense of it in the aether. Abby Wynne was kind enough to alert me to Elle Griffin’s Note calling for signatories on her letter defending Substack from the censorship fascists. I noticed you signed, CJ, so thought I’d share the link here in case others wish to add their names, too:
Also, if anyone wishes to read “The Atlantic” hit piece without the paywall, you can view it at archive.org (my go-to for paywalled articles from legacy rags):
Wow! That was a trip down memory lane! That piece was published in CounterPunch BEFORE they banned C.J., Diana Johnstone, Ed Curtain, John Steppling, Andre Vltchek and anyone else that was actually worth reading there. I haven't been back to CounterPuke since, but I have fond memories of some rather unpleasant email responses from that time - after I had dared inquire of the editors as to "why" all the principled and sane anti-war voices were being purged from CounterPunch?? If my memory serves me correctly I was informed by said editors that my favorite writers weren't in fact being cancelled, or censored, or purged, or anything like that - but simply that they weren't being published at CountPuff anymore. Go figure. Looks like the CounterPuff boys were way ahead of the curve in shamelessly embracing the whole deep state censorship regime kinda stuff - way before it really became the "new normal."
This isn’t something trivial. Our own government transferred most of the Nazis from Germany into the United States via Operation Paperclip after WWII. They have been running the country ever since. Both republican and democrat.
Where have all the Nazis gone? They're busy on the Far Left, inventing 'the Far Right' and projecting their own nastiness on to their illusory bogeymen.
Since Ike warned us about the nascent military industrial complex, it has morphed into Ray McGovern's MICIMATT complex and it uses the largely imaginary threats against America from the third world countries that we occupy with 800 bases in 80 countries to justify building and selling the most military equipment in the world and enriching the oligarchs that operate the MICIMATT complexes' many arms.
Old adage of when the going gets tough, the tough get going. C.J. looks to currently be on a roll with his situation now having become somewhat of a stimulant for some essential reminders for the reading public. Good on him.
Question which many posters could likely resolve, dissolve perhaps, is who or which agency is responsible for funding and directing the Antifa shtick. During the George Floyd "martyrdom" riots and outrages, aided and abetted, perhaps simply by their relative lack of action, both the Democrat Former Labor Party stalwarts, Minnesota's Goobernator Walz and the Minneapolis mayor, a late 20 something type with a photogenic face and apparently little more happening atop his neck. An immediate call-out of the National Guard would have placed an instant damper on the fun 'n games by a highly motivated Antifa and the George $oro$ funded and founded Black Lives Matter.
C.J. seems to have nailed it with the 2018 re-posting essay. Yeah, Globo-Cap needs to be able to posit an enemy, a threat, in order to denigrate populist opposition and the deterioration economically of not only the classical working class, but also previously economically independent professionals such as doctors, lawyers and CPA's, to barely mention college and university profs hoping to achieve tenure and retain that status.
Once upon a not too distant time, those professionals could feel free to call their own shots. Not happening any more as HMO's, huge legal firms and CPA conglomerations have succeeded in essentially DESTROYING the crest of the upper middle class. Marx had it right when he noted that serfs do not enjoy ownership of their own means of production. Currently, those onetime bulwarks of independent thinking and sometimes action, are currently economically and professionally compromised by the hidden hand's forced march into total centralization of both power and mind-control.
So these days, with the exception of the 1% and various economic hangers-on; the huge bulk of the American public has, presto-chango, once again been transformed into the status of serfs, wage-slaves and "useless eaters".
It's a war, folks...and the media-mesmerized masses, particularly in the older two or three generations...are currently throttled into an anesthetized state of "blissful ignorance", in fair part self-induced as a defense mechanism...therefore rendered hapless and not too seldom hopeless in the face of an all-out assault by the minions of highest finance capital, centered in City of London, Wall $treet and closely kept banking institutions and money-laundering centers in Switzerland.
As for Antifa and Black Lives Matter, the former org is highly reminiscent of both Hitler's Brownshirts and their Communist street-brawling activists. Different, even polarized opposites politically, but with nearly identical violence-employing mindsets. BLM has proved out to be run by a claque of grifters who are there for all that easily swept-up into private hands corporate funding on the part of institutions which are "contributing to the cause" in order to protect their politically acceptable branding.
Controlled opposition in order to dampen growing populist disgust at the blended fascisms of a metastasizingly centralized and heavily armed state, comfortably in bed with those financiers and their minions who are currently calling the shots in the "land of the free and home of the brave".
Quite the circus, I would say. Meanwhile, all the best to C.J. as he has appeared to have achieved a second wind before needing to further deal with a massively corrupted German court system...Hey! that one kinda reminds me of the law n' order racket here in the states with the U$$A having a mere 4% of the planetary population, while gorging economically on 25% of the world's victims of state incarceration. Goodness gracious, the U$$A locks up more people than India and China COMBINED...and their populations add to more than six times that of our ruptured republic!
Do the math, folks. It's simply one big racket, now sporting millions of victims amongst 99/% of the population.
This gave me chills as CJ Hopkins clearly could see the totalitarian mechanism in place. But I wonder if even he foresaw how quickly it would spread under Covid. The apparatus Ike warned of has spread to other parts of society. It is now in the medical and social services arena where supposed non-profits make a great deal of money delivering over-priced and often non-functional services. Like the war machine, you aren't to question.
We could just ignore them as much as possible. Like toddlers they crave attention and will do most anything to get it. Once they do, they escalate the game. It’s addictive to them - like drugs. We should give them no air time.
It's almost like the moment that Nazis started to "disappear" in a certain former Soviet bloc Eastern European country that "we" have been supporting with weapons, sure-to-be-usurious loans, and propaganda for the past 2 years (really since 2008 or 2014), Nazis started appearing at Substack of all places. There must be a quasi-law of physics to describe this phenomenon. As the real-world Nazis of Ukraine are wiped from existence or exposed as "Putin propaganda", there's a quantum entanglement effect at work, and Substack Nazis arise to fill the void, keeping all things balanced in the universe.
Nazis gotta Nazi, warmongers gotta mong, but it's hard to tell the players without a program.
Luckily, our esteemed leaders (Who of course have nothing but our best interests at heart.) 24/7, visually, audioly, subliminally, keep us well enlightened, informed, indoctrinated.
Fear not, they're coming after Hopkins, not you nor me.
Same old playbook rolled out week after week. If you don't like the message, accuse the messenger or in this case the substack platform of being a megaphone for white supremacists, ultra-right demagogues or outright nazis. The Atlantic is a globalist NEOCON propaganda channel.
You have probably seen the front cover of Joseph Farrell's books "Trading With The Enemy" and "Nazi International"? Big black swastikas. The books are for sale and easy to get. So should your book!
So grateful I don't read Notes.
Anyway, I suppose the Substack Nazis(R) are forcing people to read their articles at gunpoint? If they aren't, what is Katz mewling about? Nobody is forcing him to publish a Substack or read Substacks, are they?
And I find it rich that Ukraine is chockablock with open and confessed Nazis, armed, funded, trained and supported by the United States and its vassals, but apparently that's okay.
The "funny" part is that Zelensky and his closest associates are of an ethno-religious background which once was the primary target of those self-same fascistic Banderites. Strange bedfellows, I would aver. Appears to be that behind the scenes, certain powerful interests were responsible for their "forced marriage".
That last part is well-documented.
https://mattbivens.substack.com/p/ukraines-percolating-hatred-of-america?utm_campaign=reaction&utm_medium=email&utm_source=substack&utm_content=post
Zelenskii was elected in a landslide, over vociferous American objections, on a platform of peace and reconciliation with Russia. The Americans and their Nazi friends did not allow this to happen.
Zelensky was made an offer that he couldn't refuse.
Agree: Zelensky is controlled proposition.
Behind the scenes -> they are ALL UNITED against the goy. Simple af
Let's not forget that bastion of democracy to the North, whose Parliament rose in unison to cheer on an aging Ukro-Nazi for fighting against the Soviet Union in WWII. The actual Nazi problem is not with Substack--it's with the U.S. Empire. And while we're at it, let's not forget Operation Paperclip, which brought hundreds of Nazis to America to serve the Empire.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory argues that the Nazi project was relocated to America.
"Hitler's posthumous victory" - surely thou art jesting Sir ?
It’s no jesting matter...ever hear of “operation paperclip”?
Yes. I’ve also heard of the Nuremberg trials. Allied terror bombing. Expulsion of ethnic Germans from the East. Handing over half of Europe to Stalin. Morgenthau Plan. Abuse and slavery of surrendered German soldiers. Dresden. Need I go on. ??
Germany lost the war but the Nazis won. The heads of the EU, NATO and the UN were ALL Nazis. Clearly they didn’t lose.
UN charter written by communist
EU design- to end Nation’s sovereignty
NATO - Part of America’s global empire
Central Banking over the world
You clearly have no idea about National Socialism
That's the book's subtitle.
The main point is not that people should be censored or kicked off the platform. In fact, his article in the Atlantic unequivocally states--and interviews several communication experts to back this point up--that censorship is a bad idea and doesn't solve any problems. (This is a point I also agree with.)
He is posing the question of why Richard Hanania (a noted racist who has written for white supremacist blogs) was featured on the official Substack podcast, allowed to make comments like "we should roll back Civil Rights" with no pushback, allowed to encourage listeners to check out and follow other white supremacist newsletters, and was promoted through the official corporate newsletter for weeks after the fact.
So, no, I wasn't "forced to read him at gunpoint," but I would've never had heard of this guy if it weren't for Substack. There is a difference between hands-off content moderation and active promotion, which is a point that a lot of people seem to be missing for whatever reason.
When you learn about distasteful things in this world, do you always cry to Daddy?
He didn't bring up 'an interesting point'; he is trying, inarticulately, to start the snowball of mob intolerance rolling, which is all too clearly shown by his complaint about lack of 'pushback'.
He also signed the SAN letter.
When it’s deserved, which is often.
"The main point is not that people should be censored or kicked off the platform, but that people I do not agree with should be censored and not allowed to make comments hurting my feelings with no consequences and, horror, encourage people to check out their newsletters instead of mine... After all I live in an echo chamber and have never heard of this guy and therefore think the whole world hasn't been exposed to their callous influence"... Here! made it clear for everyone what you meant...
Is Substack censoring me by not inviting me to speak on their podcast?
Obviously not.
They're not inviting you because you're a shit writer.
Taking that as given, so why are you still on Substack?
I would’ve never heard of Zelensky if it wasn’t for the US government. Can we ban them too?
Youtube promotes channels that denigrate China, in hopes of preparing their audience for war with China. If YT is allowed to do it, why not Substack?
Is this via algorithm or a conscious decision by YouTube leadership to host these people on the official YouTube account where they are allowed to make denigrate China with no pushback? If it's an algorithmic product, then trying to regulate everything that's said on there would be a ridiculous and futile effort.
If Substack hosted Hanania but had a counterpoint to his arguments in an actual engaging debate, that would be one thing. But he was allowed to go off without any pushback. The point of a political interview should be to push subjects to defend their beliefs, and I would want the same done to left-of-center subjects too as it forces them to defend their arguments and refine their points, while offering the audience an actual exchange of ideas.
The Youtube algorithm seeks to put as many eyeballs on as many videos from different creators/propagandists as possible. That has a greater effect than limiting propaganda to an official channel, that would attract a fraction of the audience, and isn't focused on a single issue. And indeed, algorithms are also a conscious decision by YT leadership. They know what works.
Of course, but to a degree. YouTube can't be expected to micromanage everything that's broadcasted on their platform, nor should they be. That's not the same as the YouTube CEO bringing on a guest to be interviewed at their official channel and asking them to spout off their political beliefs unchecked.
It's more effective for YT to push propaganda onto the recommended videos list. If something is 'recommended', then it is in some way being curated. In my case, I turned off my viewing history. I should be seeing videos related to the one I'm watching, or trending videos, or random videos. That has not turned out to be the case.
And YT can use your argument to deny they are doing anything untoward. My experience demonstrates their algorithms are working as designed.
Has Justin Trudeau invited our Substack Nazis to the Canadian Parliament yet? That's my new way of determining real from fake Nazis!
I missed the brouhaha, too, and just had a vague sense of it in the aether. Abby Wynne was kind enough to alert me to Elle Griffin’s Note calling for signatories on her letter defending Substack from the censorship fascists. I noticed you signed, CJ, so thought I’d share the link here in case others wish to add their names, too:
• https://substack.com/@ellegriffin/note/c-45352134
Also, if anyone wishes to read “The Atlantic” hit piece without the paywall, you can view it at archive.org (my go-to for paywalled articles from legacy rags):
• https://web.archive.org/web/20231218020009/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/substack-extremism-nazi-white-supremacy-newsletters/676156/
Wow! That was a trip down memory lane! That piece was published in CounterPunch BEFORE they banned C.J., Diana Johnstone, Ed Curtain, John Steppling, Andre Vltchek and anyone else that was actually worth reading there. I haven't been back to CounterPuke since, but I have fond memories of some rather unpleasant email responses from that time - after I had dared inquire of the editors as to "why" all the principled and sane anti-war voices were being purged from CounterPunch?? If my memory serves me correctly I was informed by said editors that my favorite writers weren't in fact being cancelled, or censored, or purged, or anything like that - but simply that they weren't being published at CountPuff anymore. Go figure. Looks like the CounterPuff boys were way ahead of the curve in shamelessly embracing the whole deep state censorship regime kinda stuff - way before it really became the "new normal."
Your memory serves you correctly.
I thought operation paperclip was pretty clear where they went...
This isn’t something trivial. Our own government transferred most of the Nazis from Germany into the United States via Operation Paperclip after WWII. They have been running the country ever since. Both republican and democrat.
Where have all the Nazis gone? They're busy on the Far Left, inventing 'the Far Right' and projecting their own nastiness on to their illusory bogeymen.
Since Ike warned us about the nascent military industrial complex, it has morphed into Ray McGovern's MICIMATT complex and it uses the largely imaginary threats against America from the third world countries that we occupy with 800 bases in 80 countries to justify building and selling the most military equipment in the world and enriching the oligarchs that operate the MICIMATT complexes' many arms.
Old adage of when the going gets tough, the tough get going. C.J. looks to currently be on a roll with his situation now having become somewhat of a stimulant for some essential reminders for the reading public. Good on him.
Question which many posters could likely resolve, dissolve perhaps, is who or which agency is responsible for funding and directing the Antifa shtick. During the George Floyd "martyrdom" riots and outrages, aided and abetted, perhaps simply by their relative lack of action, both the Democrat Former Labor Party stalwarts, Minnesota's Goobernator Walz and the Minneapolis mayor, a late 20 something type with a photogenic face and apparently little more happening atop his neck. An immediate call-out of the National Guard would have placed an instant damper on the fun 'n games by a highly motivated Antifa and the George $oro$ funded and founded Black Lives Matter.
C.J. seems to have nailed it with the 2018 re-posting essay. Yeah, Globo-Cap needs to be able to posit an enemy, a threat, in order to denigrate populist opposition and the deterioration economically of not only the classical working class, but also previously economically independent professionals such as doctors, lawyers and CPA's, to barely mention college and university profs hoping to achieve tenure and retain that status.
Once upon a not too distant time, those professionals could feel free to call their own shots. Not happening any more as HMO's, huge legal firms and CPA conglomerations have succeeded in essentially DESTROYING the crest of the upper middle class. Marx had it right when he noted that serfs do not enjoy ownership of their own means of production. Currently, those onetime bulwarks of independent thinking and sometimes action, are currently economically and professionally compromised by the hidden hand's forced march into total centralization of both power and mind-control.
So these days, with the exception of the 1% and various economic hangers-on; the huge bulk of the American public has, presto-chango, once again been transformed into the status of serfs, wage-slaves and "useless eaters".
It's a war, folks...and the media-mesmerized masses, particularly in the older two or three generations...are currently throttled into an anesthetized state of "blissful ignorance", in fair part self-induced as a defense mechanism...therefore rendered hapless and not too seldom hopeless in the face of an all-out assault by the minions of highest finance capital, centered in City of London, Wall $treet and closely kept banking institutions and money-laundering centers in Switzerland.
As for Antifa and Black Lives Matter, the former org is highly reminiscent of both Hitler's Brownshirts and their Communist street-brawling activists. Different, even polarized opposites politically, but with nearly identical violence-employing mindsets. BLM has proved out to be run by a claque of grifters who are there for all that easily swept-up into private hands corporate funding on the part of institutions which are "contributing to the cause" in order to protect their politically acceptable branding.
Controlled opposition in order to dampen growing populist disgust at the blended fascisms of a metastasizingly centralized and heavily armed state, comfortably in bed with those financiers and their minions who are currently calling the shots in the "land of the free and home of the brave".
Quite the circus, I would say. Meanwhile, all the best to C.J. as he has appeared to have achieved a second wind before needing to further deal with a massively corrupted German court system...Hey! that one kinda reminds me of the law n' order racket here in the states with the U$$A having a mere 4% of the planetary population, while gorging economically on 25% of the world's victims of state incarceration. Goodness gracious, the U$$A locks up more people than India and China COMBINED...and their populations add to more than six times that of our ruptured republic!
Do the math, folks. It's simply one big racket, now sporting millions of victims amongst 99/% of the population.
This gave me chills as CJ Hopkins clearly could see the totalitarian mechanism in place. But I wonder if even he foresaw how quickly it would spread under Covid. The apparatus Ike warned of has spread to other parts of society. It is now in the medical and social services arena where supposed non-profits make a great deal of money delivering over-priced and often non-functional services. Like the war machine, you aren't to question.
We could just ignore them as much as possible. Like toddlers they crave attention and will do most anything to get it. Once they do, they escalate the game. It’s addictive to them - like drugs. We should give them no air time.
It's almost like the moment that Nazis started to "disappear" in a certain former Soviet bloc Eastern European country that "we" have been supporting with weapons, sure-to-be-usurious loans, and propaganda for the past 2 years (really since 2008 or 2014), Nazis started appearing at Substack of all places. There must be a quasi-law of physics to describe this phenomenon. As the real-world Nazis of Ukraine are wiped from existence or exposed as "Putin propaganda", there's a quantum entanglement effect at work, and Substack Nazis arise to fill the void, keeping all things balanced in the universe.
Nazis gotta Nazi, warmongers gotta mong, but it's hard to tell the players without a program.
Luckily, our esteemed leaders (Who of course have nothing but our best interests at heart.) 24/7, visually, audioly, subliminally, keep us well enlightened, informed, indoctrinated.
Fear not, they're coming after Hopkins, not you nor me.
Yet.
Same old playbook rolled out week after week. If you don't like the message, accuse the messenger or in this case the substack platform of being a megaphone for white supremacists, ultra-right demagogues or outright nazis. The Atlantic is a globalist NEOCON propaganda channel.
You have probably seen the front cover of Joseph Farrell's books "Trading With The Enemy" and "Nazi International"? Big black swastikas. The books are for sale and easy to get. So should your book!
Merry Christmas Everyone -
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Snicklink Parody: WEF [World Enslavement Forum] Head Klaus Schwab Announces "Vaxxmas Hits '23"
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https://rumble.com/v41y45e--snicklink-parody-wef-
world-enslavement-forum-head-klaus-schwab-announces-v.html
Neo-Nazis are dressing up in in Freddy Krueger sweaters now?